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Post by the Scribe on Jun 12, 2012 19:59:14 GMT -5
Even without health issues as we age our metabolism slows down and the Mexican or Italian foods we love to eat will catch up with us. The other factor is her height. 5 pounds will be more noticeable on a shorter person and she has always battled that demon for as long as I can remember. Assuming ones hormones are under control what we eat then becomes most important. Diets that expect one to cut down on food intake actually have the opposite effect because the body goes into starvation mode and starts storing fat so you have to eat things that have fewer calories but eat a lot of it if you want. Linda was blessed with a cute face that looks good on any body.
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Post by erik on Jun 12, 2012 20:36:13 GMT -5
I think she's always tried to keep herself healthy (she was known for jogging along the beach when she lived in Malibu), not to remain sexy but just to feel good about herself. And it's true what you've said about our metabolism slowing down, and the fact that additional pounds will be noticed on someone like Linda, who was always rather petite to begin with.
It's just these snarky, know-nothing trolls who make such a big spiel about her weight, designed to get a rise from one or more of us. If ever the day came when one of the current pop tarts gets to be 65 and looks like a junk-food junkie, let's see how they try to defend themselves against similar attacks.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 12, 2012 20:53:45 GMT -5
I think Linda always stuggled with her weight too.. toppled with a thyroid problem, it must be very difficult.... My boyfriend is a little heavy set, I cook for both of us actually, I eat more than he does throughout the day.. but I am also a little more hyper active and stress alot/move around way more than he does. I don't suffer from a weight problem now but I did when I was a teen.. but I was very lazy and kind of sloth'd around.. lol I think generally speaking, for most, it's a lot harder to maintain a slim body the older you get, unless you have skinny genetics, don't eat much. Isn't emmy lou a smoker? or was.?. Dolly like Linda also struggled with her weight but when she was younger.. I know she must sacrifice alot or deprives herself or is doing something because she too has gone up and down with her weight.. unless her metabolism changed the way mine. I don't even think Linda is that heavy.in comparison to how real women look. she just isnt hollywood skinny anymore
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 12, 2012 20:54:49 GMT -5
It's just these snarky, know-nothing trolls who make such a big spiel about her weight, designed to get a rise from one or more of us. If ever the day came when one of the current pop tarts gets to be 65 and looks like a junk-food junkie, let's see how they try to defend themselves against similar attacks.
So many of them already look terrible out of uniform but I don't blame them for how they look. I just like to think of comebacks to the idiot critics that never looked half as good on their best days and like to cut good people down just for the sheer pleasure it brings them to be mean. That type of behavior should be reserved for politicians! ha
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Post by Dianna on Jun 12, 2012 21:11:12 GMT -5
It's just these snarky, know-nothing trolls who make such a big spiel about her weight, designed to get a rise from one or more of us. If ever the day came when one of the current pop tarts gets to be 65 and looks like a junk-food junkie, let's see how they try to defend themselves against similar attacks. erik, it doen't go unnoticed with the current pop tarts either. Jessica Simpson has taken a lot of heat with her weight struggles too. Her weight is constant target for Joan Rivers on her Fashion Police show. Kelly Clarkson struggles..Mariah, even Brittney got trashed when she had gained some weight a few years back . It isn't right but I am sure they all have their own trolls probably worse than Linda's trolls.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 12, 2012 21:27:15 GMT -5
Jessica Kelly Clarkson Christina
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 12, 2012 21:41:40 GMT -5
Thanks for labeling them or I would never have known who they are.
You know, if we didn't let these food corporations put all that high fructose, gmo's, msg's, etc. in the crappy foods they sell then most Americans wouldn't be dealing with this obesity problem. Foods need to have proper labeling but corporations fight that tooth and nail and since the Republican Supreme Court has declared them to be people with all the rights that go with it we as citizens face an uphill battle for the right thing to be done.
I personally don't own a scale or even bother to weigh myself. This past weekend I went to a friends homecoming party and found myself in his bathroom with a scale. Hadn't weighed myself since my last doctor visit 3 or 4 years ago. At that time I weighed about 175. I was shocked to find I added 11 pounds in that time period! I am one of those guys that gets so busy that I can't remember if I had eaten at all the day before. I only eat when I get hungry and only because I have to. ha There I was 11 pounds heavier. I acquired acid reflux but hate taking prescription medicines so I find that if a particular food causes that problem I just have to eat a scoop of ice cream to stop it. Seems you can't win no matter what.
(and who can stop at one scoop?)
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Post by Dianna on Jun 12, 2012 22:25:04 GMT -5
Thanks for labeling them or I would never have known who they are. You know, if we didn't let these food corporations put all that high fructose, gmo's, msg's, etc. in the crappy foods they sell then most Americans wouldn't be dealing with this obesity problem. Foods need to have proper labeling but corporations fight that tooth and nail and since the Republican Supreme Court has declared them to be people with all the rights that go with it we as citizens face an uphill battle for the right thing to be done. I personally don't own a scale or even bother to weigh myself. This past weekend I went to a friends homecoming party and found myself in his bathroom with a scale. Hadn't weighed myself since my last doctor visit 3 or 4 years ago. At that time I weighed about 175. I was shocked to find I added 11 pounds in that time period! I am one of those guys that gets so busy that I can't remember if I had eaten at all the day before. I only eat when I get hungry and only because I have to. ha There I was 11 pounds heavier. I acquired acid reflux but hate taking prescription medicines so I find that if a particular food causes that problem I just have to eat a scoop of ice cream to stop it. Seems you can't win no matter what. (and who can stop at one scoop?) well, I kind of agree and disagree with that Rob. Yes, I want to know what's in my food but I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't eat.. and all that crap makes it taste so yummy.. as far as the ice cream goes, if it ain't 1.5 qt of lemon cheesecake, it ain't worth going to get it. so much for moderation. lol
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Post by erik on Jun 13, 2012 13:32:22 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Jun 13, 2012 14:14:23 GMT -5
It is sexism. Woman are always held to a much higher standard when it comes to physical looks. I don't blame this on just men either, girls/woman are just as critical if not more.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 13, 2012 15:21:29 GMT -5
I've read some pretty nasty comments about weight that were directed at people like Elvis and Marlon Brando, so it can cut both ways. But, I do think the comments made about people like Linda and Ann Wilson of Heart were far nastier, more vicious and certainly more cruel than anything ever said about Elvis or Brando.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 13, 2012 20:28:50 GMT -5
I've read some pretty nasty comments about weight that were directed at people like Elvis and Marlon Brando, so it can cut both ways. But, I do think the comments made about people like Linda and Ann Wilson of Heart were far nastier, more vicious and certainly more cruel than anything ever said about Elvis or Brando. And what do you want to bet it is from people who don't like her politics that are doing it? I have found that people/reptiles that make arguments they can't back up with proof or facts and are fingered as liars, cheats or imbeciles will generally lash out with bloviated comments that are typically projections from their own miserable lives.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 13, 2012 20:43:03 GMT -5
well, I kind of agree and disagree with that Rob. Yes, I want to know what's in my food but I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't eat.. and all that crap makes it taste so yummy.. as far as the ice cream goes, if it ain't 1.5 qt of lemon cheesecake, it ain't worth going to get it. so much for moderation. lol
Unless you are growing and making your own food you are already being told what to eat. It's just that you are given choices as to which poison of all the processed products is the yummiest to you. I vote to ban the poison, most of which is not necessary. For instance, whey is a bi-product of dairy foods but it is also considered a toxic substance and forbidden to be placed in landfills. So how do they get rid of it? They are allowed to put it into foods. Same thing with fluoride being an aluminum bi-product and very toxic. Put it in water and let it collect in peoples bodies, especially the brain and in 50 years the oldsters will have alzheimers. This nonsense needs to be stopped.
I think California is voting on a labeling requirement but the industry is lobbying heavily against it. Now that they (corporations) are people they can spend billions to advertise and convince Californians to vote against it as well as buy a few politicians here and there.
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Post by erik on Jun 13, 2012 20:52:05 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz re. fluoride: Not to mention being put in our drinking water as an insidious Commie plot (but that's what the Far Right brainwashed a lot of Americans into believing in the 1950s). But back to the subject of Linda--besides all the sexism prevalent in people getting on Linda's case for allegedly "letting herself go", there's also the seeming need for these trolls to connect all of this with her Dust-Up In The Desert from eight years ago. I doubt that they'd do this to C-Ag or J-Sim.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 13, 2012 22:37:02 GMT -5
Liberal celebrities always get more backlash and seem to attract the cowardly-hitting below the belt- name calling cyber trolls. Not to mention age appropriatness.. Madonna seems to be having a rough time in the press right now with her recent "expressing of herself." Yeah, 53 yrs old is a bit much to still act that way and come off as "cute." lol
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 14, 2012 0:24:40 GMT -5
And what do you want to bet it is from people who don't like her politics that are doing it? I have found that people/reptiles that make arguments they can't back up with proof or facts and are fingered as liars, cheats or imbeciles will generally lash out with bloviated comments that are typically projections from their own miserable lives. I don't have any doubts many of those most guilty of making nasty comments about Linda's weight are those on the extreme far right who have a problem with her politics. If anything the far right had to say could be backed with facts and proof, there would be no need for them to attack anyone who opposed them. But they don't and so their low-intelligence idea of counterpoint is to attack the person rather than challenge and debate their ideas. With Linda, I guess they think that if they make fun of her weight (whether they know about the medical issue behind her weight problem or are ignorant of the fact), people won't listen to her. But, Linda's weight has nothing to do with her politics and the nasty, vicious personal attacks are more likely to have just the opposite effect.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 14, 2012 22:40:15 GMT -5
This song was so perfecly written by Zevon that anybody could make a hit out of it. This version is good but can no way be compared to the original. MLTSproductions 10 months ago
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Excuse me but you are so wrong...If it weren't for Linda Ronstadt picking up obscure tunes such as this and many others because she has exquisite taste Warren Zevon, JDSouther and many others would still be unknown...And don't argue with me about it because you don't have a clue....At 75 years of age I kind of know what's going on in the industry sonny boy conmaesta in reply to MLTSproductions 9 months ago
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Post by JasonKlose on Feb 4, 2013 23:54:10 GMT -5
I've noticed that this "Lindawatcher" person comments on a lot of Linda's You Tube videos. The posts are generally complimentary, but many are vulgar and contain sexual innuendos either about Linda or about her band mates. The real problem is that s/he often pretends to be Linda commenting on her own videos (and people stupidly believe it's her - go figure). I remember one particular post in regard to Wendy Waldman as being particularly distasteful and left a very sour taste in my mouth, not to mention my jaw dropped when I read it. It was on one of the videos from the 1980 HBO concert. Astrodog, who I believe at one time was a member of this forum, (sometime after the days of "Bangs, Hoops, &" - I forget the rest of the person's signature), is another frequent basher. He pretends to be a fan and then quickly turns into an ass, posting comments about her weight and liberalism, and continuously brings up her "banishment from a certain Las Vegas establishment". He posts quite prolifically and prominently on the page for Linda Ronstadt on this website: www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Linda_RonstadtAlthough, I should mention our friend Erik gets in a few good jousts! I enjoyed it when he jumped into the fray! I know exactly who you're talking about. I actually communicated with this Lindawatcher for several months, on YouTube and by email. He's a big fan but also has a very dirty mind to say the least. I knew he was a little bold with his comments, but I got in touch with him anyway. I thought it was great to talk with another Linda fan. But after a while, I decided not too keep in touch with him anymore. If you look at the videos on YouTube of Linda from 1983, when she was on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, there's where he makes most of his comments. His real name is Jim Davis, as far as I know it is. On YouTube, his name is no longer Lindawatcher. When I clicked on the name, where I had replied to his comment, it said that the account was terminated due to multiple or severe violations of the community guidelines. So what does that tell you? His name is now Jim Waters. I know because of the way he talks, the things he says. It is definitely him. So avoid him if you can. When it comes right down to it, it really doesn't matter what he says or thinks. We respect and admire Linda very much. I know I do. I just try to ignore the perverts, critics and haters as much as possible.
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Post by profstadt on Feb 5, 2013 2:52:50 GMT -5
Sure, there are some A-holes out there, such as the guy we are currently discussing, whatever his name is.
In general, I think comments on how celebrities look and change just comes with the territory. Its part of being a celeb and being in the public eye. Though is can be, its not necessarily a reflection on their political views or "sexism." None of us who are fortunate enough to avoid the alternative can avoid aging and the changes that go with it. Fans often do not to want to see their favorite performers age. ( Maybe it reminds them their own mortality???). I think we all would like to see Linda today as she was when we became fans. That's simply not possible. But there is a certain beauty in growing old gracefully without the distortions that come from surgical makeovers, heavy makeup and the like. What's wrong with looking one's age? And let us not forget that beauty goes beyond appearance. It doesn't matter that Linda doesn't look like the 30 year-old rocker that we knew back in the day. She's still beautiful.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 5, 2013 12:44:10 GMT -5
I don't like seeing Linda or her reputation bullied and I suppose ignoring people like that is the most popular approach but the problem is other people reading their stuff may actually believe it. Bullies are empowered by others timidity. I think a tactical approach is best. I've seen a number of youtube commenters removed so there must be some system there to stop the cyberbullies.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2013 15:00:06 GMT -5
I don't like seeing Linda or her reputation bullied and I suppose ignoring people like that is the most popular approach but the problem is other people reading their stuff may actually believe it. Bullies are empowered by others timidity. I think a tactical approach is best. I've seen a number of youtube commenters removed so there must be some system there to stop the cyberbullies. The real solution to this kind of bullying is to counter their comments, by pointing out that they never attack the ideas they object to but attack the persons presenting them. Therefore, the ideas must be valid and must think silencing those who speak them is the only way to keep the ideas from being heard. Of course, part of youtube's problem is you're limited to - what? - 500 words? Hardly enough to rebut the ignorance and hatred of others who post there. Youtube could help matters either by moderating the comments or by putting a disclaimer that any comment not directly related to the video in question would be removed. My arguments as a liberal are that we must always remain flexible and demonstrate that we are not about the suppression of the rights of others, which quite frankly, there are too many people who call themselves liberals who are no different from the conservatives who want to suppress the rights of non-conservatives. Suprression is wrong, no matter which side is engaged in it. And we should always be focused on the ideas rather than the people expressing the ideas, although that's hard to do anytime someone makes it personal and attacks the person. You want to respond in kind and all too often, that's all you can do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 15:24:20 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the late lamented Air America show where a caller was making fun of the late President Reagan's hair color after his passing. The host (I think it was Randi Rhoads) stopped the caller, and said 'when you make a personal attack you're out of ideas', and moved the topic to his policies...Good for her...
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2013 15:39:15 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the late lamented Air America show where a caller was making fun of the late President Reagan's hair color after his passing. The host (I think it was Randi Rhoads) stopped the caller, and said 'when you make a personal attack you're out of ideas', and moved the topic to his policies...Good for her... God, I loved Randi, even though she was/is a lesbian...still love her, though haven't heard her in a while. I'd still be willing to propose to her! But, she demonstrated the difference between liberals and conservatives with radio or tv talk shows. Liberals can talk about the political ideas and not attack the person. All the conservative talk show hosts (like many of their minions) can do is attack the person rather than debate their ideas. I'd like to challenge all the conservative talk show hosts to only talk about the issues and never once attack any of the persons promoting the issues. But, to be honest, they couldn't do it and the reason is the success of their shows is all based on their personal attacks. If limited to debating the issues, there would be a lot of dead air time.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 6, 2013 19:33:36 GMT -5
Randi isn't a lesbian. Maybe you are thinking Stephanie Miller?
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2013 21:07:13 GMT -5
Randi isn't a lesbian. Maybe you are thinking Stephanie Miller? You sure about that? Because I'm pretty sure I heard Randi say on her radio show (when she was on XM's liberal channel) that she is. I know about Stephanie being a lesbian - I love her too, by the way. Maybe I did mishear Randi or maybe she was playing her audience that day. Still, I'd love her whatever her preference is.
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Post by philly on Feb 6, 2013 21:46:49 GMT -5
about that Jessica Simpson photo above, I thought there were a number of things 'off' about that picture...and the watermark worth1000.com is a site with photoshopped pictures. Here's another one: the original:
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 6, 2013 23:01:34 GMT -5
Randi isn't a lesbian. Maybe you are thinking Stephanie Miller? You sure about that? Because I'm pretty sure I heard Randi say on her radio show (when she was on XM's liberal channel) that she is. I know about Stephanie being a lesbian - I love her too, by the way. Maybe I did mishear Randi or maybe she was playing her audience that day. Still, I'd love her whatever her preference is. Very sure. She talks about her lover Howard endlessly and once told Stephanie she didn't swing that way.
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Post by musicaamator on Feb 16, 2013 15:24:35 GMT -5
I just saw this clip for the first time of Linda and Leo Sayer doing Tumbling Dice:
And it seems from some of the comments made (didn't read all), that half noticed Linda looking annoyed at Leo while the other half say Leo was fine. Well, I have to say that viewing it on first glance, Leo was kind of over the top and I felt bad for Linda to be next to that. But she sure did look nice!
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 16, 2013 17:26:24 GMT -5
I just saw this clip for the first time of Linda and Leo Sayer doing Tumbling Dice: And it seems from some of the comments made (didn't read all), that half noticed Linda looking annoyed at Leo while the other half say Leo was fine. Well, I have to say that viewing it on first glance, Leo was kind of over the top and I felt bad for Linda to be next to that. But she sure did look nice! If I was Linda, I would've felt very annoyed having to look over at Leo. She didn't look like she was enjoying Leo's dance routine too much, not in those high heel shoes she was wearing. I'd almost be willing to bet that if she wasn't wearing those high heels, she would still have been taller than Sayer. That's almost. If he was taller than Linda, I think he'd only be taller by an inch, maybe not even that.
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Post by jhar26 on Feb 16, 2013 19:44:16 GMT -5
I just saw this clip for the first time of Linda and Leo Sayer doing Tumbling Dice: And it seems from some of the comments made (didn't read all), that half noticed Linda looking annoyed at Leo while the other half say Leo was fine. Well, I have to say that viewing it on first glance, Leo was kind of over the top and I felt bad for Linda to be next to that. But she sure did look nice! I've always considered Leo Sayer a lightweight. He's way out of his league singing Stones material or singing with Ronstadt.
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