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Post by the Scribe on Jun 7, 2012 20:35:44 GMT -5
I couldn't resist this topic after reading this comment on Adios:
This song makes me think of my inlaws poor dead poodle. The short of the story is that it got ran over by a steam-roller while their sub-division was being blacktoped. The dog was literally about an eighth of an inch thick when it was over! Buffy was literally a pavement patty then and not even thick enouigh to be a good speed bump. When my mother in law hears this song she cries.....Lindawatcher 1 year ago
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 7, 2012 21:15:00 GMT -5
what an unfeeling ass! I hope he was not trying to be funny, cause if he was he sucks at it!
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 7, 2012 21:39:51 GMT -5
Goodbye My Friend must be the MOST used personal tribute song out there:
my brother David was killed on June 25, 2006 by Sharon Hartley who ran him (and my sister in law Linda and his friend Tim) down with her truck and they were on their Harley's, this song makes me cry when I hear it, but also brings my brother close to me. prettypugser 2 years ago 9 Reply ShareRemoveFlag for spamBlock UserUnblock User I am so sorry, prettypugser, so very sorry. What a horrible thing to happen. Keep your brother close. My heart goes out to you! C. ceb2633 in reply to prettypugser (Show the comment) 2 years ago 2
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Post by jeffmeister on Jun 7, 2012 23:50:49 GMT -5
I've noticed that this "Lindawatcher" person comments on a lot of Linda's You Tube videos. The posts are generally complimentary, but many are vulgar and contain sexual innuendos either about Linda or about her band mates. The real problem is that s/he often pretends to be Linda commenting on her own videos (and people stupidly believe it's her - go figure). I remember one particular post in regard to Wendy Waldman as being particularly distasteful and left a very sour taste in my mouth, not to mention my jaw dropped when I read it. It was on one of the videos from the 1980 HBO concert. Astrodog, who I believe at one time was a member of this forum, (sometime after the days of "Bangs, Hoops, &" - I forget the rest of the person's signature), is another frequent basher. He pretends to be a fan and then quickly turns into an ass, posting comments about her weight and liberalism, and continuously brings up her "banishment from a certain Las Vegas establishment". He posts quite prolifically and prominently on the page for Linda Ronstadt on this website: www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Linda_RonstadtAlthough, I should mention our friend Erik gets in a few good jousts! I enjoyed it when he jumped into the fray!
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Post by jeffmeister on Jun 7, 2012 23:52:51 GMT -5
Goodbye My Friend must be the MOST used personal tribute song out there: You noticed that, too, eh?
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Post by philly on Jun 8, 2012 0:11:14 GMT -5
I've noticed that this "Lindawatcher" person comments on a lot of Linda's You Tube videos. The posts are general complimentary, but many are vulgar and contain sexual innuendos either about Linda or about her band mates. The real problem is that s/he often pretends to be Linda commenting on her own videos (and people stupidly believe it's her - go figure). I remember one particular post in regard to Wendy Waldman as being particularly distasteful and left a very sour taste in my mouth, not to mention my jaw dropped when I read it. It was on one of the videos from the 1980 HBO concert. Astrodog, who I believe at one time was a member of this forum, (sometime after the days of "Bangs, Hoops, &" - I forget the rest of the person's signature), is another frequent basher. He pretends to be a fan and then quickly turns into an ass, posting comments about her weight and liberalism, and continuously brings up her "banishment from a certain Las Vegas establishment". He figures prominently on the page for Linda Ronstadt on this website: www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Linda_RonstadtYup, I recognized "Lindawatcher" as the hater he(?) is...may even be the ex-fan immigrant basher who was on the old board a few years ago "azorka?". He'd post a detailed critique on her music, then go into a political rant that should've been in the war room. Accused everybody of being sales agents for her records too ;D
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Post by Richard W on Jun 8, 2012 8:51:01 GMT -5
I remember this person, too. Pretends to be a friendly dog then turns Cujo.
But you have to wonder: of all the people in the world that might deserve hating on, why would anyone spend so much energy on Linda Ronstadt?
I mean, I loathe the uber affected Jewell (or Jewel), for example, but I certainly wouldn't take the time and effort to cyberstalk her fan forums and YouTubes. I'd just ignore her as much as possible (which has gotten a lot easier the past couple years).
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Post by erik on Jun 8, 2012 9:10:01 GMT -5
Quote by richwar: I'm by no means endorsing what this guy does, but I could specify date and place to start with: July 17, 2004; Las Vegas, Nevada.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 8, 2012 9:58:19 GMT -5
because she is a woman who speaks her mind, she never needed a man to make her whole, and she is very liberal. Her weight gain, which by the way, I would ask everyone to take a good long look in the mirror who is 65 and pretend you are 30 when you see your reflection...WE ALL AGE and most of us put on weight as we do. Health problems or not, Linda Ronstadt looks damn good at 65. She is not trying to be sexy, which IMO is not attractive at her age anyway. Find me another woman her age who has not had work done and show me skin as healthy as hers! When women who at one time were sex symbols age and gain weight for some reason people just love to laugh at them. I wish those that do would take a long look in the mirror at themselves. Besides, part of growning up is learning there are far more important things than looking 30 the rest of your life. Yes, I know, health is an issue to be concerned about, but look at all the thin good looking women that never make it 50 because the destroy themselves mentally trying to be what they once were.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 8, 2012 10:06:08 GMT -5
and for all those that expect Ronstadt to be doing what she was in her hayday and look like she did then, its more a reflection of them than it is on Ronstadt, and they are living in a pipe dream if they are expecting such things. Those days are gone, and I imagine she has moved on to more important things.
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Post by Richard W on Jun 8, 2012 10:32:07 GMT -5
Our culture has made aging a crime, almost as if you have done something wrong if you don't look the same at 60 as you did at 30.
Of course, the ones who attempt to look the same don't.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 8, 2012 10:58:13 GMT -5
Wasn't it "Bangs, Hoops & Earrings"...
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 8, 2012 11:44:04 GMT -5
One of the phrases I've come to hate over the past few years is the phrase "(whatever) is the new (whatever)." The phrase has been used to describe people of a certain age as not being the age they are but a younger age, as in "60 is the new 40." Who are these ad men trying to kid? If you're 60 or older, you may look like you're in your 40s but you're still in your 60s. If you still look good in your 60s, if it's not through outside help like plastic surgery and maybe a little pharmaceutical assistance, it's because you probably had some good genes and worked out.
I've no doubt many of us would like to have stopped aging when we reached a certain age, as well as seeing our favorite artists stopped aging. But, we're not at that stage where we can stop the aging process. It's coming but that's something that's still somewhere down the line.
And as much as I would like to have seen Linda looking the same now as she did at 30, it doesn't matter to me that she doesn't because she still looks beautiful in my eyes and always will. Time and the aging process will never change that.
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Post by erik on Jun 8, 2012 13:44:22 GMT -5
Quote by richwar:
It's dumb, of course; and I think it really hurts the truly gifted and talented people like Linda, because a lot of the public, having been brainwashed for so long by tabloid TV shows, American Idol and the like, equates age and youth with talent and ability, and that simply isn't always the case. Too many "celebrities" are just famous for being famous; and if you look deep down at them, you'll find a big empty black hole.
And when we talk about many young female singers of today, it's really quite dismaying. Yes, they are young; they've got great looks; they've got all the surface stuff. What so many of them don't have, except for a very select few (IMHO), is actual substance. Maybe we're all spoiled because Linda has so much of that in abundance, but there it is. Linda raised the bar so high, but if others can't reach it, that's their fault and not hers.
I've said many times on these Ronstadt fan forums that I wouldn't want Linda to look the same in her 60s as she did when she was in her 30s. I know that's not happening. And as we can't do anything about these YouTube miscreants who seem to have nothing better to do other than to b**ch-slap Linda for growing older, it's best to ignore them. They're cheap, tawdry, and cowardly, and not worth the time of day as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 8, 2012 15:45:36 GMT -5
Astrodog, who I believe at one time was a member of this forum, (sometime after the days of "Bangs, Hoops, &" - I forget the rest of the person's signature), is another frequent basher. He pretends to be a fan and then quickly turns into an ass, posting comments about her weight and liberalism, and continuously brings up her "banishment from a certain Las Vegas establishment". He posts quite prolifically and prominently on the page for Linda Ronstadt on this website:www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Linda_RonstadtI sure had some run-ins with that guy but didn't remember him coming to the forum. All makes sense now. Linda looked wonderful in her last public photos (some award show). She still looks like Linda thanks to no plastic surgery. Many of her contemporaries are beginning to have that "pulled back cat woman" appearance. I don't blame anyone for wanting to look and or feel better but it really isn't necessary and they shouldn't feel compelled to do it because some idiotic fan has made comments at one time. Linda has lived her early years in a manner similar to a man (serial monogamist) and can live out her later years like a man and "age gracefully." Grace Slick has done the same and is quite outspoken about it. She's pretty cool.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 8, 2012 17:57:20 GMT -5
I'm sure we've all seen photos of celebs without makeup or in regular lighting? Most of them I would not recognize, As for extreme plastic surgery, I guess, it's okay, if you're going for the mannequin look.. I personally, don't care for it and think Linda looks great! Aside a few and the really young Selena Gomez, they all look pretty normal and every day looking w/o the makeup and lighting.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 8, 2012 18:10:26 GMT -5
Many of them in that video lookso much better without the makeup, much more interesting to the eye IMO.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 8, 2012 21:25:07 GMT -5
They should have put names next to those celebrity photos cause I only knew a couple of them even with makeup.
This youtube comment was cute and easily related to by most guys in the 70's with a Ronstadt crush:I agree about the RNRoll HOFame sentiments.. I saw her in '78 in Dallas. Had pretty good seats, about 30 feet away. Talk about subtley seductive. Her dress strap broke. She kept performing, and fiddling with the strap.. I was 16 years old and on a date with my high school sweetheart .. it was almost too much.. DIY1977 7 months ago 17
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 9, 2012 12:30:28 GMT -5
Linda is to the guys what Elvis was to the girls. No other female performer had that same effect on guys in quite the same way, but I don't know how many guys were willing at the time - or even now - to admit that Linda got to them in the way men had kidded their wives or girlfriends about their love of Elvis. And Linda was aware of the effect she had on men. I recall there was one concert I read about where I guess some male fan had yelled out he wanted to marry her. Linda heard the comment and said with a smile, "No, you don't want to marry me but you'd sure like to date me!" Every guy at that concert probably agreed with her and so too would a good number of the single male population.
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Post by kgreen on Jun 9, 2012 17:09:30 GMT -5
Linda is so unique. She is definitely still "A Very Lovely Woman" to look at. At 64 she still looks very sweet and lovely, She was a major sex symbol from 1967 - 1990. Few Hollywood Stars, even with plastic surgery, span 4 decades like her. Her unconventional beauty struck a nerve in everyone who liked her, men and women.
Then to have perhaps one of the greatest voices (i think so) that were ever recorded is unbelievable. Her legacy of opening up Country and Rock music for women to be independent would be enough for any one person. But to Single handedly bring back The Great American Songbook and then to bring Mariachi/Mexican Folk back to the millions of Mexican Americans and popularize it, make Linda a musical Giant.....even if they haven't recognized it yet. They will, the facts are in. Read the history.
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Post by philly on Jun 9, 2012 19:05:34 GMT -5
I haven't gotten very many negative comments about Linda on youtube, but there were a few that I deleted. They weren't even vicious, its just that their attempts at humor were so excruciatingly lame...usually some reference to the "cheesecake factory" in the comment I mean, if they just tried for some originality, the haters should at least put some thought into their insults...
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Post by erik on Jun 9, 2012 19:49:33 GMT -5
Let's see what happens when either Britney Spears and/or Jessica Simpson hit 40 and look half as good now without plastic surgery, and see if these idiots have anything to say about it.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 11, 2012 12:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Jun 11, 2012 12:45:28 GMT -5
Quote by dianna:
She does, I have to admit. But the fact is it'd never work for Linda, and in the end, what would it prove?
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 11, 2012 16:21:59 GMT -5
It's good to see Cher with her mother, from what I understand and from Cher said herself on Oprah years ago that they didn't have a relationship any longer. Funny thing about life, as you get older you can understand and forgive your parents their short comings. There is no such thing as perfection when it comes to being a parent.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 11, 2012 19:14:41 GMT -5
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. It's amazing how many people spend so much, and especially the one's in the public eye, young or older, this is where you'd expect the most egotistical or vain of them all and or trying to maintain a look to keep their image going yet Linda has no interest... it wouldn't prove anything but I bet many celebs do it to appease their fans too.
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Post by erik on Jun 11, 2012 20:31:54 GMT -5
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Post by profstadt on Jun 11, 2012 21:43:00 GMT -5
Sure... and I think most on this panel would agree with that. But when I think about the comments made over the years (for example Letterman, Stern and even here on the earlier panel) the rub seems mostly to be her weight (though we understand the medical problem she was dealing with). Generally, contemporaries of hers in the spot light have simply done a better job of maintaining their weight (such as Dolly, Bonnie, Emmy Lou and others) though some have obviously also opted for surgery (not always for the best!).
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Post by erik on Jun 11, 2012 21:46:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately, telling the truth about the cause of the weight problem (the thyroid condition plus the treatments she has to take to combat it) seems to go into some people's ears from one side and out the other.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 12, 2012 18:21:29 GMT -5
People hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe, even when the truth is starting them straight in the face. I blame much of that on those in the news media who far too often want to focus on the negative side of a celebrity's life. Negative sells. Linda's health issues have never been widely addressed by the news media, so when people see a recent photo of Linda, they don't associate her weight issue with a health issue, they just assume she's another celebrity who likes to eat to excess.
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