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Post by Partridge on Apr 29, 2016 8:15:35 GMT -5
I saw this for sale on ebay-- it has a verified autograph: link |
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Post by erik on Apr 29, 2016 8:33:04 GMT -5
Funny--because that still isn't her in that picture.
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 29, 2016 9:19:56 GMT -5
Maybe it was the faux Linda, which would make what they're doing fraud.
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Post by Partridge on Apr 29, 2016 10:28:11 GMT -5
I reported the item to ebay as counterfeit/fraud by clicking the link "Report Item" on the right hand side of the listing. If it is not removed in a few hours, I would suggest others report the item as well.
Maybe the seller thought he was okay to perpetrate this fraud because he did not actually say this was a "Linda Ronstadt" signature as he only listed it as a "Linda Rondstadt" item.
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 29, 2016 11:47:27 GMT -5
I reported the item to ebay as counterfeit/fraud by clicking the link "Report Item" on the right hand side of the listing. If it is not removed in a few hours, I would suggest others report the item as well. Maybe the seller thought he was okay to perpetrate this fraud because he did not actually say this was a "Linda Ronstadt" signature as he only listed it as a "Linda Rondstadt" item. I tried to report it as well but the report would no go through. I also tried sending the dealer an email to point out this was not Linda but a Linda impersonator. It's bad because the Linda impersonator's photo even shows in photos of Linda when searching for Linda items on the internet. I hadn't noticed that he had listed the as a "Linda Rondstadt" item, so it does sound like he is aware he is knowingly committing fraud. If he cons anyone into paying almost $80 for the autograph photo and they found out they've been had, he can say he said it wasn't Linda Ronstadt but Linda Rondstadt. Anyway you look at it, it's still deceptive and he knows it. |
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Post by fabtastique on Apr 29, 2016 15:26:10 GMT -5
are people insane??? really she bears a slight resemblance and if you were buying an autograph you would think you'd be a big enough fan to realise its not Linda!
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Post by Belle on Apr 29, 2016 16:11:45 GMT -5
The seller has 100% Positive Feedback from 1095 buyers. That might change if he doesn't remove this soon and someone actually buys it... I was able to send him this message: Sorry to inform you, but that is NOT Linda Ronstadt in this picture. Her name is Holly Aprecio and she fronts the Linda Ronstadt cover band "Just One Look". www.justonelookband.com/ |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 16:16:28 GMT -5
What is her name again? I saw a tribute band "Heart Like a Wheel" a few towns away like 7 yrs ago. This band is out of Little Falls, NJ. Does she lead that band? If she does her name is Maristella. It is amazing how the woman in ebay item has fooled (not saying purposely/maliciously)some people into putting Linda's name below her pic. Just her eye color is sooooooooooo off Linda's. Didn't she even make it on the cover of a bootleg Linda concert album? I guess other celebrities go through this too eddiejinnj
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Post by moe on Apr 29, 2016 16:18:36 GMT -5
are people insane??? really she bears a slight resemblance and if you were buying an autograph you would think you'd be a big enough fan to realise its not Linda! AMEN! you also think a fan would know how to spell the name of the object of their admiration. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 16:20:05 GMT -5
You beat me to it, Belle. Thank God though. I thought her name was Holly and changed it in last post since I couldn't find her name. I pictured Holly with an "A" last name. I knew the cover band was named after one of Linda's songs. Thanks Belle.
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Post by Belle on Apr 29, 2016 16:20:51 GMT -5
Eddie it looks like we were typing our posts at the same time! See above. Also, I compared that "autograph" with the signature on the latest cancelled check. There are too many differences imo for this to be an authentic signature even. Here is the description of the item: OFFERED HERE IS AN ORIGINAL HAND SIGNED AUTOGRAPH ON AN 8 x 10 COLOR PHOTO IN CRISP SILVER SHARPE BY THE GREAT LINDA RONDSTADT. AN AWESOME QUALITY ONE OF A KIND PORTRAIT PICTURE OF LINDA. THIS IS AN ORIGINAL. NOT A REPRINT. PHOTO IN MINT CONDITION.. THIS COMES WITH A CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY(COA) WITH MATCHING NUMBERED REGISTERED HOLOGRAMS ON THE CERTIFICATE AND THE BACK OF THE PHOTO. FROM MY OWN COLLECTION. HER AUTOGRAPHS ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO OBTAIN CURRENTLY.. A GREAT ADDITION TO YOUR COLLECTION OR GIFT FOR A MUSIC FAN. INITIAL AUCTION PRICE BELOW VALUE TO FACILITATE BIDDING. SURE TO APPRECIATE IN VALUE. WOULD FRAME UP GREAT IN A 8 X 10 OR NICER MATTED IN AN 11 X 14. COMBINED SHIPPING SAVINGS FOR MULTIPLE PURCHASES.  |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 16:23:29 GMT -5
So in this case since you told the seller her real name or at least her known stage name and not Linda Ronstadt or Linda Rondstadt if the seller does not remove it it is a form of fraud imo but I am not a lawyer. eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 16:24:03 GMT -5
we are!!!!!! Good going gang!!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by Belle on Apr 29, 2016 16:27:52 GMT -5
The Linda Ronstadt Detectives strike again!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 16:36:25 GMT -5
Belle Drew and Eddie Hardy. I was the straight man (hmmmm lol) in that joke. I laugh at myself all the time goofy!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 29, 2016 17:15:13 GMT -5
You even see this chick on the cover of (semi-bootleg) Linda albums.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2016 17:36:07 GMT -5
yeah, see I thought so. eddiejinnj
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Post by Belle on Apr 29, 2016 22:02:01 GMT -5
Hah! He wrote me back, and the listing is now "ended". New message from: dsch8487 Top Rated Seller(1,095Red Star)
thanks for the info. it sure fooled me. i'll withdraw the listing!Our mission is complete  |
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Post by simpledream on Apr 29, 2016 22:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by Partridge on Apr 29, 2016 23:32:09 GMT -5
So, based on this listing, I think we might agree that a "Certificate of Authenticity" is meaningless. I would like to know who authenticated this piece of memorabilia. They should be discredited in the industry.
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 29, 2016 23:37:42 GMT -5
So in this case since you told the seller her real name or at least her known stage name and not Linda Ronstadt or Linda Rondstadt if the seller does not remove it it is a form of fraud imo but I am not a lawyer. eddiejinnj It's a moot point now since the seller has taken down the item, but had he kept the item listed after being informed it was not Linda or even her signature and asking his price, that would've been fraud on his part. But, the question would be who signed the faux Linda photo as Linda? The faux Linda herself? She can make a living as a Linda impersonator but she could not sign autographs using Linda's name. That would be fraud. I don't know that she did that and don't think she did that, but someone did. I think ebay needs to do a better job of policing and verifying what sellers have to offer, especially for the more expensive items. And they also need to try and recover stolen merchandise, which has sometimes popped up on ebay. A few years ago, a woman offered a pillow that she said came from Elvis Presley's coffin and who said that her late husband worked for the funeral home that oversaw Elvis's funeral and who took it before the coffin was sealed. She posted that information on the now-defunct Elvis newsgroup. She was asking $3000 minimum for the pillow. I responded to her and pointed out if the pillow was Elvis's coffin pillow, that was the property of his estate (since his estate paid for it) and if her husband took it, that was theft, and that she was an accessory to the theft by holding onto it instead of returning it to the estate, and that she was committing fraud in trying to sell it. What I wrote must've rattled her as she changed the description to a facsimile pillow, like the one Elvis was buried with, and she was still trying to get $3000 for a facsimile pillow. And a year or two ago, someone was offering the 12-string Gretsch White Falcon double cutaway guitar that Michael Nesmith played on the Monkees' tv series. I forget how they came across it but they were wanting a bundle of money for the guitar as it was still in good shape. There was just one problem. Nesmith took it to a music store in 1967 for some repairs where it was stolen during a burglary. The authorities never recovered the guitar and it had been missing for four decades when it turned up on ebay. As soon as the party who had it on ebay found out it had been stolen, he took down the listing and the guitar disappeared again. Nesmith rejoined Peter Tork and Micky Dolenz for Monkees reunion tours in 2014 and 2015 playing another Gretsch White Falcon 12-string but it wasn't his old guitar. It was a new one supplied by the Gretsch guitar company. If police were to ever find out who has his old guitar, it would have to be returned to Nesmith since it's still stolen property. The statue of limitations may have run out on the original thief but neither they nor others who may have "owned" over the years since the theft could sell what wasn't theirs to sell. The original thief committed two crimes, burglary and then fraud in selling the guitar to someone else, and each seller thereafter possibly unknowingly committed fraud reselling it to someone after them. |
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 29, 2016 23:50:23 GMT -5
So, based on this listing, I think we might agree that a "Certificate of Authenticity" is meaningless. I would like to know who authenticated this piece of memorabilia. They should be discredited in the industry. The only way, I think, a Certificate of Authenticity could be regarded as authentic is someone who was or is associated with the person in question. Same for sports. It has to be someone in a position to know that say, you have an autographed photo of Linda Ronstadt and John Boylan was present when she signed it and he certifies the authenticity. No one else can claim to know for sure with 100% accuracy, only their best guess and even that may be wrong. I don't know about these companies that certify things like autographed photos, baseballs, footballs, scripts, musical instruments, et al, as belonging to a celebrity or sports figure or what have you. A Certificate of Authenticity should be notarized but even that is meaningless if someone wants you to pay a high dollar for a forgery. It truly is buyer beware. |
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Post by Belle on Apr 30, 2016 2:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 30, 2016 19:58:47 GMT -5
If I were Holly Aprecio, I'd be demanding royalties for them using her likeness on that bootleg "A Party Girl in Dallas" recording that is being sold everywhere from Amazon to Barnes & Noble with her picture on the cover, not Linda Ronstadt... But who knows, maybe she consented to the use of it... If I were Holly Aprecio, the one thing I would want to be is be an artist in my own right, and not as a Linda impersonator doing a tribute act to Linda. Paying tribute to Linda is fine but Holly is not Linda and while there's a resemblance, it's not that close. I would have no trouble telling Linda from Holly and vice versa. And I don't mean any disrespect of Holly at all, just think that she should be herself. I'd like to see what she is capable of doing as Holly Arpecio, and I believe she could do much just being herself. Maybe not as successful as Linda but I have to think that would be more rewarding for her. |
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Post by the Scribe on May 1, 2016 2:12:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't blame Holly. Not her fault her photos are being used. Also, I don't believe singing is her main career. I think photography is. The cover band is secondary although I could be wrong. I doubt Linda would sign a photo of Holly.
More and more people will do anything these days to make a buck. We have a billion more people floating around then we did twenty years ago so they have to survive somehow lol.
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Post by jhar26 on May 1, 2016 4:08:45 GMT -5
If I were Holly Aprecio, I'd be demanding royalties for them using her likeness on that bootleg "A Party Girl in Dallas" recording that is being sold everywhere from Amazon to Barnes & Noble with her picture on the cover, not Linda Ronstadt... But who knows, maybe she consented to the use of it... If I were Holly Aprecio, the one thing I would want to be is be an artist in my own right, and not as a Linda impersonator doing a tribute act to Linda. Paying tribute to Linda is fine but Holly is not Linda and while there's a resemblance, it's not that close. I would have no trouble telling Linda from Holly and vice versa. And I don't mean any disrespect of Holly at all, just think that she should be herself. I'd like to see what she is capable of doing as Holly Arpecio, and I believe she could do much just being herself. Maybe not as successful as Linda but I have to think that would be more rewarding for her. Agreed, but if this is just a hobby for her she probably has no such ambitions. |
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Post by sliderocker on May 1, 2016 8:19:06 GMT -5
Agreed, but if this is just a hobby for her she probably has no such ambitions. I think playing Linda gives Holly a chance to be with her dad, who's a musician and that's great, but she claims to be a songwriter and is trying to be her own artist. I watched videos of her last night and the resemblance to Linda is not even close. But, her photos are being used to represent Linda and that's laziness on the part of those who post the photos. At the very least, Holly should contact these sites that are doing that and ask them to use Linda's actual photos and not photos of her. |
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Post by jhar26 on May 1, 2016 8:35:05 GMT -5
Agreed, but if this is just a hobby for her she probably has no such ambitions. I think playing Linda gives Holly a chance to be with her dad, who's a musician and that's great, but she claims to be a songwriter and is trying to be her own artist. I watched videos of her last night and the resemblance to Linda is not even close. But, her photos are being used to represent Linda and that's laziness on the part of those who post the photos. At the very least, Holly should contact these sites that are doing that and ask them to use Linda's actual photos and not photos of her. Well, she's pretty and she sings well. If she's a songwriter it would perhaps be better for her to sing her own songs and do perhaps a Linda-tribute segment in her shows rather than to build the whole show on impersonating someone else. The photo thing I don't really get. There's also a Linda DVD (a bootleg probably) with Holly on the cover. Holly looks somewhat Linda-ish, but nowhere near enough to confuse one for the other. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 1, 2016 8:43:50 GMT -5
The mistake only makes her and the band more known. If you google Linda, one of the things that comes up is a photo of Holly if not more than one. Now if the search brought you to the band site and because it has Linda's name is one thing but in the pics of Linda her pic comes up as if truly a pic of Linda. Could it possibly be a search engine issue? eddiejinnj
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Post by linda2006nicci on May 1, 2016 9:40:30 GMT -5
The Linda Ronstadt Detectives strike again! Yeah! The Linda Ronstadt Detectives strike again! |
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