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Post by erik on Dec 9, 2014 22:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Dec 9, 2014 23:15:07 GMT -5
It must be pretty bad when the #1 song knocks what all the others at 2 3, 4, 5..ect. are singing about lol
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Post by erik on Dec 10, 2014 9:36:16 GMT -5
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Well, I do think the jerks who are responsible for this bro-country crud have really been asking for it for some time now. What Maddie and Tae are offering up, albeit in somewhat of a cheeky fashion, is what John Lennon would have called "Instant Karma" (IMHO).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 14:28:29 GMT -5
Is it long over due, although not as sassy or professional as the Dixie Chicks for example..
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Post by erik on Dec 10, 2014 18:58:44 GMT -5
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In their defense, I don't think that Maddie and Tae are trying to step into the shoes of the Chicks; and in any case, the Chicks were extremely unique (I daresay we will never see their likes again, and, probably, never the Chicks themselves unless they release new material as a trio).
But what they are speaking to, albeit in a kind of goofy, off-kilter fashion, is the frustration of being treated as an "object" (with t**s and an a**) in all these asinine redneck part dude anthems by everybody from Blake Shelton, Jason Aldean, and Luke Bryan to Brantley Gilbert, Florida-Georgia Line, and so on. It's an endless toxic sludge of c**p, each of these bro-country anthems progressively stupider than its predecessor on the radio; and Maddie and Tae may very well be the beginning of the estrogen backlash, so to speak.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 10, 2014 19:22:53 GMT -5
well I am still hoping that The Voices' Craig W. Boyd will do something about this "bro country" I understand he did write a song called "Too country for country these days." That's hopeful
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Post by erik on Dec 11, 2014 9:24:53 GMT -5
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It's hopeful, but, again, I just don't think it's the kind of song that would ever get played on country radio, because what he'd be fighting against is so disgustingly popular at the moment. And its title is practically a personal throwdown against the entire beer/trucks/dirt roads/bimbos sect that they'd take a guy doing as a personal affront to their so-called "manhood" (whatever that is these days there in Music City).
And also, look at how the bro-country boys are reacting to Maddie and Tae's song. They can dish it out, but they can't take it coming back at them.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 11, 2014 12:56:29 GMT -5
well I see it different. People will listen because it's either that or top 40 music, so they're settling If you ask . I'm sure the majority who listen prefer Johnny Cash, Waylon,George j Haggard.. Travis Tritt, Vince Gill ect.. I haven't heard what the boys are saying about that song. They need a new outlaw in town.. lol
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Post by erik on Dec 11, 2014 18:17:14 GMT -5
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I would say that, if you heard how much the term "outlaw" is used these days in country music, in the context that it's used, you might find it hard to keep from laughing with derision. For one thing, the term "outlaw" is glamorized by the bro-country boys in a way that is totally different from the kinds of rough and tumble, and often near-self-destructive, lives that Waylon, Merle, George, and Johnny lived. They lived the reality of hard times and hard living, which is something that the Blake Sheltons, Jason Aldeans and Luke Bryans of the bro-country movement, who jaw about girls on pick-up trucks, flying down dirt roads, and all of that, wouldn't have a single clue about.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 11, 2014 19:19:24 GMT -5
Erik.. just by looking at those you mention.. because honestly I can't tell you what song any of them sing (I do like some of Shelton's stuff and his Not so Family Christmas Special was pretty funny and not very p/c.. at least in my book I liked it. Anyway. most of them look like frat boys or chippendale dancers. fake. I think I saw 1 video on Luke Bryan with his press on veneer teeth moving like a male stripper.. was not appealing to me in the least. My sig other will sometimes watch the country countdown on CMT channel and every song sounds the same and every guy has a ball cap on dancing and shaking his ass. I think the public wants some real artists who sing about those things you mentioned, I really do have faith.
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Post by erik on Dec 11, 2014 19:46:21 GMT -5
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You do need to have faith in artists that might come along who would sing about things that haven't to do with pickup trucks, blonde bimbos, and such. What about songs about the open road, the highway? We haven't heard songs like this (or at least I haven't) in a very long time. Nor have there really been that many C&W songs that talk about something other than the Southern experience, which is no wonder why the genre is so stultifying. What about the rural West, the open West...which, by the way, still exists? When are we ever going to get somebody brave enough to talk in song about our part of America? That, I think, is what I'd like to hear again on country radio.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 11, 2014 21:11:09 GMT -5
well I think a lot of the new country music is aimed towards the young people.. nobody is singing about luckenbach texas anymore. songs like that are real life grownup experiences.
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Post by erik on Dec 11, 2014 22:41:41 GMT -5
Well no one's ever going to be able to recreate "Luckenbach, Texas" in this day and age, not by a longshot (IMHO). But what is the most disgusting about this bro-country trend is both the objectifying of women as pickup truck hood ornaments, misogyny in its purest form, and the female listeners of this stuff who "get off" on it (once again raising the point that H.L. Mencken once made--"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.")
I'm reminded of Sheryl Crow's tongue-in-cheek remark just prior to last April's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony about wanting less bro-country and more "bra-country." I would hope that this doesn't mean the girls start acting as macho as the boys just to counter their beer-swigging, pickup-driving egos--especially since (and I don't think this escapes Sheryl's mind for a second) Linda proved herself back in 1974 that it wasn't necessary. She threw down the gauntlet back in 1974 with "Willing", a strongly male truck-drivin' anthem (written by Lowell George) that she put a new spin on by making her the one driving the truck (with 18 wheels instead of four) all over the Southwest and even Mexico. This and "weed, whites, and wine", which not even someone like Blake Shelton would have the gall to do.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 11, 2014 23:25:20 GMT -5
The problem isn't with the women in today's country music.. I like Carrie and Kacey just fine. I don't have a a huge problem with any of the other women, wish there were more. It's up to the boys to man up. I think it's gonna take a class act to step up to the plate and be the change for the better in country music. He or they will make the others look stupid on their own.
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Post by erik on Dec 11, 2014 23:48:58 GMT -5
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Unfortunately, as long as this c**p remains profitable, I don't see the boys manning up anytime soon. Just as unfortunately, this means that the women, even good ones like Kacey Musgraves or Brandy Clark, instead of being elevated, are going to be given the shaft. Country radio is notoriously slow to change when it's got a good thing going, and it doesn't like strong, independent women. I don't know that even Carrie herself is enough now.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 12, 2014 2:45:24 GMT -5
Maybe country music needs someone like this... and someone to write songs like this
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Post by erik on Dec 12, 2014 9:35:42 GMT -5
Yes, they could use a guy like Mac Davis for sure. Trouble is, there's only one of him.
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Post by philly on Jun 15, 2015 18:37:07 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Jun 15, 2015 19:52:08 GMT -5
I think Martina is dead-on about this.
I'm just glad that this kind of "focus group" mentality didn't exist (or at least wasn't as pervasive as it is today) back in the middle to late 1970s. What would country radio be like now if it had eliminated Tammy Wynette, Loretta Lynn, or (heaven forbid!) Dolly Parton from the radio airwaves when they were at their hottest? And then, ladies and gentlemen, what about the "hippie country" of Linda and Emmylou, which influenced so many of the women who came along in the 1990s, including Martina herself?
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Post by philly on Jul 14, 2015 20:07:21 GMT -5
Here's a good quote, Justin Moore must be a heavyweight bro:
In fact, modern country music is the phoniest music in the world. I’m writing this while listening to a new album by the country artist Justin Moore. Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard and Loretta Lynn sang beautiful songs that, although informed by their lives growing up in the South, had universal appeal. “Coal Miner’s Daughter” can move anyone who saw their own father work himself to exhaustion. But Moore’s album, “Outlaws Like Me,” is so larded with hyperbolic country-centric clichés that it could easily pass as parody. It’s as if the South has yet to get indoor plumbing and electricity. Moore sings about drinkin’ beers, drivin’ down back roads, learnin’ life lessons from daddy and granddaddy, and women who fish and drive pick-ups. The only thing missing is the outhouse. What is most noticeable is the deep resentment. Songs like “If You Don’t Like My Twang” and “Redneck Side” bitterly criticize people who live in clean houses, have manners, and are articulate.
– – Mark Judge at The Daily Caller isn’t a big Justin Moore fan.
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Post by moe on Jul 15, 2015 6:34:06 GMT -5
Here's a good quote, Justin Moore must be a heavyweight bro: In fact, modern country music is the phoniest music in the world. I’m writing this while listening to a new album by the country artist Justin Moore. Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard and Loretta Lynn sang beautiful songs that, although informed by their lives growing up in the South, had universal appeal. “Coal Miner’s Daughter” can move anyone who saw their own father work himself to exhaustion. But Moore’s album, “Outlaws Like Me,” is so larded with hyperbolic country-centric clichés that it could easily pass as parody. It’s as if the South has yet to get indoor plumbing and electricity. Moore sings about drinkin’ beers, drivin’ down back roads, learnin’ life lessons from daddy and granddaddy, and women who fish and drive pick-ups. The only thing missing is the outhouse. What is most noticeable is the deep resentment. Songs like “If You Don’t Like My Twang” and “Redneck Side” bitterly criticize people who live in clean houses, have manners, and are articulate.– – Mark Judge at The Daily Caller isn’t a big Justin Moore fan. He should listen to his David Allen Coe-I think most of us like our parody intentional. Well gotta pick up my Mama at the prison-later!! |
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