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Post by the Scribe on Feb 17, 2013 1:13:42 GMT -5
Did anyone download the original Winehouse vs. Ronstadt video? Looks like it disappeared and the replacement one pales in comparison. I think it was closing in on 2 million hits and then suddenly it is gone unless I am just not finding it.
Even Linda liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 8:14:25 GMT -5
I didn't even know Linda was aware of it... where did she say that?
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Post by erik on Feb 17, 2013 20:18:26 GMT -5
I think she said it in an interview she did for the LGBT-oriented magazine Planet Out in 2009. Here's part of what she said about the Winehouse/Ronstadt video:
"Yes! It makes no sense musically, but it’s interesting, and I thought it was funny. I’m just completely flattered to be in anything with Amy Winehouse. If I believed in reincarnation, I would firmly believe that Amy Winehouse is the reincarnation of Maria Callas. Maria Callas is such the ‘grand lady,’ and Amy is such a guttersnipe, and they both are so demonically talented."
Two years later, unfortunately, Amy died that painfully early death.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 18, 2013 4:28:32 GMT -5
I think she said it in an interview she did for the LGBT-oriented magazine Planet Out in 2009. Here's part of what she said about the Winehouse/Ronstadt video: " Yes! It makes no sense musically, but it’s interesting, and I thought it was funny. I’m just completely flattered to be in anything with Amy Winehouse. If I believed in reincarnation, I would firmly believe that Amy Winehouse is the reincarnation of Maria Callas. Maria Callas is such the ‘grand lady,’ and Amy is such a guttersnipe, and they both are so demonically talented." Two years later, unfortunately, Amy died that painfully early death. I kind of wonder when Linda stopped believing in reincarnation? And what she believes now, if anything? |
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 18, 2013 10:49:12 GMT -5
I kind of wonder when Linda stopped believing in reincarnation? And what she believes now, if anything?
It must have been when she thought Amy was the reincarnation of Maria. (that would have ruined reincarnation for me) Then again, I think Linda is more intuitive than she knows.
I thought we decided Linda was agnostic, kind of, now?
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 19, 2013 4:36:46 GMT -5
[/i] It must have been when she thought Amy was the reincarnation of Maria. (that would have ruined reincarnation for me) Then again, I think Linda is more intuitive than she knows. I thought we decided Linda was agnostic, kind of, now?[/quote] But, not being a complete agnostic (Linda's actual words in that interview) about God doesn't mean that she (or anyone) would be an agnostic about everything else, although here again, she could be unsure about the existence of reincarnation just as much as she is about the existence of God. Belief in reincarnation doesn't demand the kind of intolerant fanatical belief systems that permeate those with a religious point of view or even an atheistic point of view. Btw, I watched some atheist-based videos on youtube and they came across just as fanatical and as rigid as the religions they were running down (mostly the Christian religion). If anything, they came across as more smug and arrogant. They didn't win me over to their point of views on anything. |
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 19, 2013 10:51:08 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't know how anyone who has ever had, met or raised a baby wouldn't believe in reincarnation unless they are so detached or just terribly busy with life. I guess what is obvious to me isn't to a large segment of the population.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 19, 2013 16:04:55 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't know how anyone who has ever had, met or raised a baby wouldn't believe in reincarnation unless they are so detached or just terribly busy with life. I guess what is obvious to me isn't to a large segment of the population. I feel the same way although I'd also add that I think it's extremely rare those who had or raised a baby didn't become more spiritual in the process. It's the same as when you lose a close family member to death; you want to believe there is something more beyond death. That it's just not the end of our existence, whether it's a god or reincarnation, we don't want death to be the absolute end. But, I don't know about people who think death is absolutely final. Since that's a road we've never been to, although we are headed to eventually, I think it's asinine to assume there is nothing and just as asinine to be dismissive of the reincarnation claims or afterlife claims amde by others. My niece as a not quite two year old provided me with proof of reincarnation - proof that nade my hair stand on end. And I had some pretty big hair at the time. |
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Post by Dianna on Feb 19, 2013 16:28:33 GMT -5
re- reincarnation.. I guess I'm more, what's that word? agnostic.. neither here nor there.. unsure.. mostly skeptical.. but I am open to the possibility because nothing would shock me. lol.. Slide mentioned his niece.. not sure what happened there with her. sounds interesting. anyway, reminds me of before my niece (who is now 19 was born) My brother's 3rd born.. during my sil pregnancy.. I had this experience . it wasn't a dream, at least that's the feeling I got.. where I was holding this little baby girl near this beautiful and scenic waterfall and I could feel and hear the cool breeze rush through my face and even hers. it was very peaceful;.. I knew this little girl but could not explain where.. then that was that.. a few months later on march 13 my sil gave birth to my niece ..and we've always had a special bond.. I've always felt that was her.. As we talked about in other threads, they say some souls are grouped together and choose to have these earthly experiences togehter.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 19, 2013 17:24:58 GMT -5
re- reincarnation.. I guess I'm more, what's that word? agnostic.. neither here nor there.. unsure.. mostly skeptical.. but I am open to the possibility because nothing would shock me. lol.. Slide mentioned his niece.. not sure what happened there with her. sounds interesting. anyway, reminds me of before my niece (who is now 19 was born) My brother's 3rd born.. during my sil pregnancy.. I had this experience . it wasn't a dream, at least that's the feeling I got.. where I was holding this little baby girl near this beautiful and scenic waterfall and I could feel and hear the cool breeze rush through my face and even hers. it was very peaceful;.. I knew this little girl but could not explain where.. then that was that.. a few months later on march 13 my sil gave birth to my niece ..and we've always had a special bond.. I've always felt that was her.. As we talked about in other threads, they say some souls are grouped together and choose to have these earthly experiences togehter. What happened with my niece, Dianna, is that one day she and her younger brother were playing in back of me. I was watching the tv, but keeping an ear out and an oocasional eye on them to make sure they didn't get into any kind of trouble. Anyway, my niece, who like most near two year olds, didn't have a large vocabulary, says quite out loud and quite plainly (and I quote): "Thank you, Jesus! Now, for my next number, I'd like to do an old rock and roll favorite of mine. I hope you like it. It goes something like this...." That was quite a mouthful for a kid of that age to be saying, and as mentioned, my hair stood on end when I heard her say it. But, my hair stood on end even more when I turned around and looked at her and her brother: both had this look on their faces they knew what she had said and they knew she had shocked me beyond belief. It made me wonder who she might have been in a previous life. (Now, I don't think she was Janis Joplin because I don't think Janis Joplin ever said words along those lines. Like "Me Tarzan, you Jane" or "Judy! Judy! Judy!," it's more assumption than fact. And she couldn't have been influenced by Joplin becauise we didn't have any of Janis's records around the house.) My niece at the time also had an affinity for 60s music, and she'd sing along to 60s songs on the radio. But, the fun part on that was she'd be singing along with songs she hadn't heard before, word for word and in tune and on key. She didn't like Elvis at the time though she likes him now. She also likes the Beatles and a lot of 60s and 70s songs (my influence on her) although like most young adults (she's 19 now - geez, where did all the years go?), she likes a lot of the current acts and their music (which I tease her about). When it comes to reincarnation or God, we ask for proof and yet I believe that when we are given the proof, we dismiss what we have seen or heard. Reincarnation? Oh, must've been from some tv program, movie or book someone read - that's not proof. God, what kind of proof is possible? Us? No, we self-originated - no cosmic creating deity brought us, this world and all that live in it into existence. If we can self-originate into existence, even that suggests that we can do it time and time again. And if we can do that, does it make any sense to say we come back because we have some karmic debt to pay, a fine for having lived a less than stellar life last time around? As I've said about my belief in reincarnation, we come back because we want to come back, not because we have to come back. God wise, I'm a deist - I believe there is a God, something that created this world, the universe and the infinite, endless number of galaxies that exist. I don't believe we can put any kind of number on the number of galaxies and planets that exist or the life forms that exist elsewhere. We ask for proof there as well and we have always had the proof - we're just too vain, too narcisstic in believing we are all there is in the universe. We're not alone. But, I think God is in every atom of existence, whether that atom takes the shape of a life form or non-life form. Maybe we are part of God, maybe not, but maybe God is all around us and we deny what we see or hear that would serve as proof of that. |
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Post by Dianna on Feb 20, 2013 16:39:09 GMT -5
Oh wow slide, that is strange and yes, out of the norm. esp for such a small child.. unless spongebob had a little segment like that on his show.. you know how kids repeat everything. LOL.. You know, I find the same thing with my niece and nephews when they were little.. they loved the oldies too.. must be the simple melodies which kids like.. I notice lots of kids shows have music similar to the 50's and 60's.. there was this one popular kid show show my nephew had all the videos and they sang mostly 60's british invasion songs on it. but cool about your niece.. I thought of janis too and also perhaps an old black rock and roller.. like little richard.. but, that would be imposible since he is still among us. lol
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 20, 2013 20:32:59 GMT -5
Oh wow slide, that is strange and yes, out of the norm. esp for such a small child.. unless spongebob had a little segment like that on his show.. you know how kids repeat everything. LOL.. You know, I find the same thing with my niece and nephews when they were little.. they loved the oldies too.. must be the simple melodies which kids like.. I notice lots of kids shows have music similar to the 50's and 60's.. there was this one popular kid show show my nephew had all the videos and they sang mostly 60's british invasion songs on it. but cool about your niece.. I thought of janis too and also perhaps an old black rock and roller.. like little richard.. but, that would be imposible since he is still among us. lol My niece didn't watch a lot of Spongebob when she was two to three years of age. Did watch a lot of Teletubbies, which I didn't really get for a PBS show, other than it was from England, about a family of strange humanoid creatures possibly from another planet (how could they not be? - they had tv screens in their belly areas) doing the same old routines and for whom the late Rev. Jerry Falwell accused the purple one of being gay. How Falwell knew this, I don't know but for all the evil and hatred that man did in the name of the Christian religion, he probably wasn't given an asbestos suit upon his death. A lot of the people I've told the story about my niece to all think she picked the words up from a movie on Janis Joplin's life or some old film clip on Janis. Only thing is there wasn't a lot of film clips of Janis being shown in the mid to late 90s, when it happened. There was a documentary about Janis which I remember watching at the time but there wasn't any footage of Joplin uttering those words. I even thought about the possibility the words might've been in Bette Midler's movie, "The Rose," which was a fictional accounting of Janis's life. I don't think they were but another problem there was that although the movie was on from time to time on tv, it wasn't being aired at the time my niece uttered those words. I think Midler occasionally said "Thank you, Jesus!" or "Sweet Jesus!" in the movie, but that was it. One would still be left trying to figure out where my niece came up with the rest of the words, if they don't believe in reincarnation. Of course, I believe in reincarnation and think it possible my niece did have some recall of a not so distant past life. Do I believe she was Janis Joplin? No, not really. Still, who she was in the past (if reincarnation exists) will always be something of a mystery. But, the skeptics are always dismissive of people claiming to have been a famous figure in the past. Does it not ever occur to them that even the famous will reincarnate just like everyone else? And that they might have a less famous life the next time around? |
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